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3.6  |  Development of UK strategy and options, November 2002 to January 2003
the Vice President of Iraq, (characterised by INDICT as the “second most powerful man
in Iraq”).234 All were alleged to have committed offences of hostage‑taking in 1990.
Lord Goldsmith wrote to Ms Clwyd on 24 January 2003.235 He stated that he was
not prepared to consent to a prosecution on the “theoretical possibility” that Saddam
Hussein’s “current immunity could at some point lapse” particularly, in the light of
the Yerodia236 decision which implied that the formal grant of his consent might itself
contravene the basis of his immunity. Lord Goldsmith was not satisfied, moreover, that
the evidence submitted by INDICT provided a realistic prospect of conviction.
Lord Goldsmith did not express a view as to whether Tariq Aziz might continue to enjoy
immunity. In his case, and with regard to Ali Hassan Al‑Majid and Taha Ramadan, he did
not consider the evidence to be sufficiently cogent or persuasive for there to be a realistic
prospect of a conviction and Lord Goldsmith refused consent in each case.
Lord Goldsmith closed his letter with the following paragraph:
“My conclusions on the material provided, focus only on the question of exercising
criminal jurisdiction against individuals in the domestic courts. They have nothing
to do, of course, with the quite separate question of whether the international
community may in due course consider it worthwhile to establish an international
tribunal, depending on how the international situation develops. An international
tribunal can be set up on a basis that overrides Sovereign immunity. But this is not
a matter for me and it would not be right for me to speculate as to how the situation
will develop over the next few weeks or months.”
Mr Blair’s interview on BBC’s Breakfast with Frost, 26 January 2003
680.  Mr Blair decided to use an interview on Breakfast with Frost on 26 January
to set out the position that the inspections should be given sufficient time to
determine whether or not Saddam Hussein was co‑operating fully. If he was
not, that would be a sufficient reason for military action. A find of WMD was
not required.
681.  In an extended interview on the BBC’s Breakfast with Frost programme on
26 January, Mr Blair set out in detail his position on Iraq.237
682.  Asked whether Dr Blix should be given more time, Mr Blair stated that the
inspectors had “to be given the time to do the job”, but there was “confusion” about what
that job was. The time they needed was to certify whether Saddam Hussein was “fully
co‑operating or not”. Saddam had to provide information on “exactly what weapons
material” he had, “allowing the inspectors to inspect it, monitor it and shut it down”.
If they were not able to do that job, Saddam would have to be disarmed by force. That
should not take months, but Saddam was not co‑operating.
234  Note Montgomery, 25 September 2002, ‘In the Matter of Iraqi Crimes Against Humanity’.
235  Letter Goldsmith to Clwyd, 24 January 2003, ‘Saddam Hussein, Tariq Aziz, Ali Hassan and Taha
Ramadan’.
236  Democratic Republic of Congo v Belgium ICJ, 14 February 2002.
237  BBC, 26 January 2003, Breakfast with Frost.
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