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14.1  |  Military equipment (post-conflict)
811.  Lt Gen Figgures told the Inquiry that “FRES had been used as a regulator for
the defence programme. Money had actually been taken out of the FRES programme
in order to attempt to balance the programme.”428
812.  Mr Hutton told the Inquiry that, if it had gone ahead on the original timescale, some
of the equipment from FRES would have been available for deployment in Iraq.429
813.  In Mr Hutton’s view, the problem had been:
“We couldn’t settle on the specification. We changed our mind about certain aspects
of how we wanted to go ahead with the procurement. We started, we stopped.”
814.  ACM Stirrup told the Inquiry that the FRES programme was “overcomplicated and
overcomplex”.430 He said that the “critical battleground” was the need to “interact with
the population”. That required “smaller and lighter vehicles”; “commanders need a wide
range of vehicles”. FRES “would not have solved the problems that we had been facing
in Iraq and Afghanistan, with, perhaps, one exception, which is the Scout variant … our
top priority at the moment … to replace the CVR(T)”.
815.  Gen Jackson told the Inquiry:
“As the situation deteriorated in southern Iraq of course the vulnerabilities of the
Snatch Land Rover became tragically more and more apparent, and we then enter
a difficult and muddled story as to the replacement, or the addition of better protected
vehicles into the deployed army’s inventory, and the whole FRES story comes into
this as well.
“… there is a limit to the amount of metal you can stick on a vehicle … and the ability
of the opposition to up the kinetic energy that can be applied can go rather faster
than our ability to withstand that. So the amount of metal on a vehicle is important
but it is not the complete answer, and you would finish up with a vehicle which is far
too large often to go down small streets in an urban area. So again the picture is not
black and white, and there is not some sort of fence you can jump over and all of a
sudden you have a vehicle which is immune to whatever your opponents may try
to do.”431
816.  Gen Dannatt suggested to the Inquiry that FRES had been delayed by the MOD so
that funding originally allocated in the Equipment Programme for the FRES in 2007‑2009
could be used for other priorities.432
428  Public hearing, 27 July 2010, page 73.
429  Public hearing, 25 January 2010, pages 24‑25.
430  Public hearing, 1 February 2010, pages 68‑71.
431  Public hearing, 28 July 2010, pages 75‑76.
432  Public hearing, 28 July 2010, pages 58‑62.
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